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Horvath on epigenetic aging the DNA PhenoAge and GrimAge clocks 101,149 viewsDec 22, 2020
Horvath on epigenetic aging to predict healthspan: the DNA PhenoAge and GrimAge clocks
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Steve Horvath, PhD, ScD is a professor of human genetics and biostatistics at UCLA's Fielding School of Public Health. Dr. Horvath is the creator of the Horvath Epigenetic Aging Clock. His work incorporates elements of biostatistics, genetics, epidemiology, epigenomics, and other fields of study. He applies his understanding of this diverse range of disciplines to study a spectrum of chronic diseases, including cancer, cardiovascular disease, neurodegenerative disease, and other diseases of aging.
Dr. Horvath's so-called "pan-tissue epigenetic aging clock" is an algorithm that accurately predicts a person's chronological age from marks on the DNA across multiple cells, tissues, and organs, and even mammalian species. Further refining this initial algorithm, Dr. Horvath built on this to develop second-generation clock algorithm that could predict time-to-death among people of the same chronological age, as well as lifespan and healthspan. One of these clocks, the GrimAge clock, is named deliberately after its connotation: predicting time until death ("Grim").
In this episode, Dr. Steven Horvath describes epigenetic clocks and their role in predicting – and possibly slowing – aging
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CHAPTERS
00:00:00 - Introductions
00:00:34 - Horvath Aging Clock
00:01:50 - Explaining the error rate
00:06:42 - Hereditary + lifestyle factors
00:15:03 - DNAm PhenoAge vs GrimAge
00:22:50 - Telomere science shortcomings
00:26:08 - Prolonging the epigenetic clock
00:50:56 - Epigenetics: Cause or consequence of aging?
00:56:53 - Vitamin D reverses epigenetic age
00:59:20 - Omega-3 slows down the GrimAge clock
01:04:27 - Ongoing research
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Introductions
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Horvath Aging Clock
0:34
Explaining the error rate
1:50
Hereditary + lifestyle factors
6:42
DNAm PhenoAge vs GrimAge
15:03
Telomere science shortcomings
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1 year ago (edited)
00:00:34 - The Horvath clock explained: Methylation patterns at unique areas of our DNA involved in gene regulation predict a person's age within four to five years.
00:06:42 - The effect of HEREDITY on the epigenetic clock rate (determines as much as 40 percent of rate).
00:12:48 - How the stability of epigenetic information has potential implications in forensic science.
00:26:08 - How diet, exercise, education, and lifestyle factors effect the epigenetic clock.
00:31:59 - How transplanting young cells into an old body may slow epigenetic aging of the recipient.
00:47:23 - Reprogramming pluripotent stem cells by activating specific genes can reset the epigenetic clock.
00:50:56 - Do epigenetic changes drive aging, or are they the result of aging (just the "face of the clock")?
01:02:32 - How poor sleep speeds up the epigenetic clock.
01:12:12 - Super silly outro easter egg
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Joe Amrine
Joe Amrine
1 year ago
Definitely one of the most entertaining hours of 2020... awesome idea showing citations for clinicians and researchers who are interested in learning more about these topics!
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Live Forever or Die Trying
Live Forever or Die Trying
1 year ago
Steve is a legend. Thank you for having him on!
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Dr. Samiera Sadoon Alhassani
Dr. Samiera Sadoon Alhassani
11 months ago
Thank you both for sharing such level of interesting information which usually kept in the labs..Thank you and may God bless you in your biological age of longevity and wellness.
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tinox12
tinox12
1 year ago
thank you so much Rhonda, without people like you we wouldnt bring important topics like aging to the general public. for some reason the average guy doesnt care about aging, only later in life when its already too late. its truly one of the most important topics in the modern times tho
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J M
J M
1 year ago
Your energy and passion gives me the biggest grin possible. I just can’t describe how much appreciation I have for you, your work and the people you interview’s work. On a side note - do you have any books you recommend for someone trying to eat a diet for longevity and health? Thanks Rhonda, hope you’re doing well!
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Peter
Peter
1 year ago (edited)
Thanks. @32 on parabiosis - recently, the Conboy lab performed a variation (not really parabiosis though) in which 50% of plasma in older mice was replaced with saline and albumin. They saw tissue regeneration in 3 tissues, the liver, muscle, and hippocampus. Lots of changes in many plasma proteins. Would be interesting to know how long this effect persists and if epigenome is affected.
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ET
ET
1 year ago
Awesome content! Thank you SO much for your devotion to this field, much much appreciated.
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J T
J T
1 year ago (edited)
I love the way you add the literature excerpts during the interview. It adds new dimensions to the presentation & gives me new rabbit holes to run toward & through.
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Vetruvio
Vetruvio
1 year ago
Extremely interesting and fascinating. Thank you very much for this interview!
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Kubs
Kubs
1 year ago
Great interview. We definitely need a follow up with Dr. Horvath in a year or two. It's clear this field is moving _fast_!
At 00:27:39, if I'm reading this correctly, it appears that carotenoid consumption has a much greater impact on GrimAge than fruits & vegetables or exercise. Also, reducing C-reactive protein seems to have a profound effect as well.
Traditional health advice is focused on diet & exercise, but would it have a bigger impact to increase carotenoid consumption and reduce CRP (through L-Carnitine or curcumin)?
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Julia Hello
Julia Hello
1 year ago
Dietary polyphenols play a key role in modulating these modifications thereby delaying aging and extending longevity. In this review, we summarize recent advancements linking epigenetics, polyphenols and aging as well as critical findings related to the various dietary polyphenols in different fruits and vegetables.
BFBF Rob
BFBF Rob
1 year ago
If at 16 years old you stored some of your own bone marrow. Could you in fact store it for long periods of time 10-50 years and then inject your own bone marrow 10-50 years later, would it age while stored? Would it eliminate graph vs host issues if it was your own bone marrow? Just curious.
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David A
David A
1 year ago
A great interview and guest. I watched it while pedaling on a stationary bicycle. Rhonda is simply a nice human being 😊
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Quest Love
Quest Love
1 year ago
This podcasts follows such a natural but still hardcore biology involved flow, I love it.
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2coryman
2coryman
1 year ago (edited)
Thanks for the great info, I suspect that since there is so much to this science that we cannot oversee or micromanage, the best that we can do is to give our bodies the best food to take care of itself, it is divinely programmed to do a much better job at staying young than we can ever hope to do by meddling in its work, All we can do is to understand our organism and not abuse it and give it what needs to repair itself and stay young, cheers
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English Bob
English Bob
1 year ago
I don’t really understand when Steve says that a healthy life style doesn’t affect the epigenetic ageing, if that was the case what on earth is David Sinclair doing . I am a tad confused
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Practical Health
Practical Health
6 months ago
Great, insightful discussion, thank you, Rhonda!
Bhupen Huidrom
Bhupen Huidrom
1 year ago
Greatly appreciated for bringing such research studies to the public domain
👍👍👍👍👍!!!
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HSCHSC211
HSCHSC211
1 year ago
Vielen Dank Steve für deine herausragende Arbeit, welche den Durchbruch brachte! 🙏🏻☀️
Access
Access
1 year ago
Hi Rhonda I've been a long time fan of yours and I'd love to see you talk about human growth hormone and its connections to aging then dive into how we can take action to have proper/optimal levels of HGH!
Keny Charles
Keny Charles
1 year ago (edited)
I am discovering many instances of people who sleep 5 hours or so , lately.
Thank you for this presentation.
Great interview!
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S o F Daniel
S o F Daniel
1 year ago
Really appreciate the effort you put in to put infographics on as well!
Jarod King
Jarod King
1 year ago
I would love to see a cross-sectional correlation between GrimAge and lifestyle factors for low-carb and fasting cohorts. I am assuming his data was from nHANES or some other SAD-based cohort.
Stevo
Stevo
5 months ago
this was so interesting, but also rather depressing. So my take from this is that we almost have a predetermined lifespan and there is seemingly little we can do about it. Diet and exercise he claimed has minimal effect on increasing our lifespan. So if we have a father who died at 64 from heart attack and a mother who lived to age 90, it would appear we can only keep our fingers crossed that we inherited our mothers epigenetic age markers?
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gary gjl
gary gjl
7 months ago
I listen to Dr. Patrick frequently and a few other PhDs. I will now follow Dr. Horvath.I donot understand why medical doctors are looking after my health matters when these individuals are the ones that know what they are talking about.
Michael Workman
Michael Workman
10 months ago
The U-shaped effect appears to apply to stress as well. Too much or too little stress isn’t good either. Fasting produces stress that activates autophagy.
ishtar0077
ishtar0077
6 months ago (edited)
The information in this video amazes me. I had to rewatch it twice 💜
Julia Hello
Julia Hello
1 year ago
An integrative metabolo-epigenetic outlook supports a new model whereby metformin operates as a guardian of cell identity, capable of retarding cellular aging by preventing the loss of the information-theoretic nature of the epigenome. The ultimate anti-aging mechanism of metformin might involve the global preservation of the epigenome architecture, thereby ensuring cell fate commitment and phenotypic outcomes despite the challenging effects of aging noise. Metformin might therefore inspire the development of new gerotherapeutics capable of preserving the epigenome architecture for cell identity.
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Dr Gayle Delaney
Dr Gayle Delaney
1 year ago (edited)
Thank you, Rhonda, for your added explanatory and elaborative notes. They are a great help to me. But! I can't understand the charts for Young Finns study nor the Vitality 90+study! (@9:38) The text on on the right gives us the gist, but how do the charts show the aging rates over time? shouldn't any one dot either be two as seen at different times, or does each dot show that there is no movement in rate? Is each stationary over time? What am I missing? If there is NO difference in rate and each dot is stationary over time, then all I see in the charts is the distribution of some unknown number of different subjects who live at a slower or faster DNAm aging.
Julia Hello
Julia Hello
1 year ago
We evaluated the impact of a 1-year Mediterranean-like diet in a pilot study including 120 elderly healthy subjects from the NU-AGE study (60 Italians, 60 Poles) by measuring the changes in their epigenetic age, assessed by Horvath's clock. We observed a trend towards epigenetic rejuvenation of participants after nutritional intervention.
Matthew Andre Mink
Matthew Andre Mink
1 year ago
Great interview -- from the beginning to the end!!! However, I realy wonder what the these two doctors think about the current, and soon be be a common, mRNA "vaccines"/drug delivery system/s and their potential effects on human epigenetics?
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Melissa Costin
Melissa Costin
1 year ago
I think cannabinoids are better antioxidants than fish oil .,Aust health minister just called for ideas to grow industry, so I sent him this video and suggested he look at cannabinoids and molecular aging ..the u telomere shape and aging was a learning curve for me as I was thinking of it re skin photoaging analysis..brilliant cutting edge conversation, much appreciated..looking forward to learning more
basia jamróz
basia jamróz
1 year ago (edited)
I had low growth hormon level as a kid. I've even had bone growth checked and my bones marurity were 1.5 lower (younger) then calendar age. End up short but still at lower end of normal hight (5'2). Same for rest of my family. I've always looked younger, smaller and this continue till this day. I am 33 and I am often thought that i look much younger. I wonder is this related to low growth hormone level.
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pitapep
pitapep
1 year ago
Probably my live-style interventions will not prolong so much my health span but I'm feeling so well that I would continue doing them: 1 or 2 hours exercise outside during sunrise, semi-naked, after 16 hours fasting, CT and two meals a day high-fat low carb.
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Red Pill Lense
Red Pill Lense
11 months ago
My IQ increased because of this great interview 🤓
Margics
Margics
4 months ago (edited)
Good points. To the sentence “ Double the exercise” is not always good haha it all depends the level of exercise the person is doing and if it fits their requirements. Because exercise is personal. Not one size fits all. Personal trainers are the adequate professionals in charge of prescribing it. Unfortunately everyone talks about exercise incorrectly and ignoring the methods for exercise prescription to produce excellent effects on health and aging.
Alpha Health
Alpha Health
1 year ago
Hey Rhonda, do you know what the test-retest variability is for the original pan tissue clock?
G.V. Bangkok
G.V. Bangkok
1 year ago
Not commented upon, but after smoking, a high CRP in the long list of measurements, and lifestyle data, seems to be a rather important factor. Reversely, I reckon having a very low CRP, is a good thing to have, as I do (statins + ace inhibitors + omega 3), and I am happy about it.
Fact Checker
Fact Checker
1 year ago
Another issue is the long list of deficiencies that add up with age and largely go unmeasured in the population. Vitamin D is about the only one of dozens that actually gets measured and studied much. Are we just measuring the combined effects if 20 or so deficiencies in one clock and methylation process?
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Rui-9-CS
Rui-9-CS
1 year ago
what a legend!
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Fourthz 44
Fourthz 44
1 year ago
Watched the entire video. This was super interesting even though im not a scientist (:
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Hanz Lammersdorf
Hanz Lammersdorf
1 year ago
Fantastic interview!
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D
1 year ago
Rhonda, would you know of any information pertaining to if graying early is correlated with higher or lower epigenetic clock?
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Daily Dose of Medicine
Daily Dose of Medicine
1 year ago
Good explanation 👍
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Bakhtiyar Neyman
Bakhtiyar Neyman
1 year ago
Thanks Rhonda, another great interview!
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Kubs
Kubs
1 year ago
😂😂 I was not expecting that sudden promotion at the end. I was completely caught off guard and laughed my ass off. 😂😂
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Siddarth
Siddarth
1 year ago
Was really looking forward to this so thank you 🤗
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Sleep Smart Smash Stress
Sleep Smart Smash Stress
1 year ago
Thanks a lot Dr. Steve Horvath for introduction to Happy Genetic aging to predict healthspan. I wonder that if the lifespan of a living object is measures using a clock they are either worms and fruit flies or extremely ultrashort lived primates. We tend to measure lives of even infants on a calendar. How about using a century calendar to measure human longevity?
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fuzzel
fuzzel
1 year ago
1:08:00 Vitamin-D3 reduces methylation speed. Virus infection seems to increase it. Radiation doesn't affect it. That makes sense to me, if temporary methylation is a defense mechanism targeted at viral DNA. By methylating the viral DNA and the cellular core DNA the virus could be prevented from replicating itself. But you cannot 100% undo this process post-infection, because that would hurt cell specialization (anyone who has ever built a PID controller, knows why). Radiation damage, on the other hand, happens absolutely randomly when a highly energetic particle rips through your tissue. There is no way to prepare for it.
c
c
1 year ago
Off topic: what are your thoughts on using powder versions of green vegetables in smoothies
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The Sheekey Science Show
The Sheekey Science Show
1 year ago
Ah this is so cool, thanks for the interview!! :)
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Andi de Mattos
Andi de Mattos
5 months ago
Great to see you again Steve. You were my boyfriend's roomate (Rick de Mattos) at UNC CHAPEL HILL over 30 yrs ago! YOU have not AGED MUCH AT ALL YOURSELF! Great interview. Andi Sloan de Mattos. Rick enjoyed seeing you in this video!
FoundMyFitness Clips
FoundMyFitness Clips
1 year ago (edited)
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Danny P
Danny P
1 year ago
I would like to think that lifestyle intervention plays a much more significant role in life span then Dr. Horvath believes.
Firstly, it’s ambiguous at best. Because for me I take 2000mg of resveratrol every day, don’t smoke, lift weights, take plenty of vitamins. But maybe someone else simply eats the Mediterranean diet.
It can mean so much but varied boredom to person is my point. Do we really know the perfect lifestyle to live to increase lifespan? Probably not! Once we do know, it should play a significant role.
Bahar Zaap
Bahar Zaap
1 year ago
This was way too short . Can we invite him once a month and delve into deeper areas you touched upon please ?
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Lucrezia Dippolito
Lucrezia Dippolito
1 year ago
Speaking of age, why is there an old rotary phone sitting on the desk ? Other than that, very advanced ground breaking information. Fascinating!!!
Sergey
Sergey
1 year ago
Very interesting. Thanks!
Maistora11
Maistora11
1 year ago (edited)
I wonder if there might be some kind of a connection between the suggested vitamin D supplementation effects on the clock (57:32) and the benefits of vitamin D related to the coronavirus, age being a major factor there.
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Earwaxfire909
Earwaxfire909
1 year ago
Does Histone acetylation contribute to aging? Is that a synergistic factor?
LifeMe Vzw
LifeMe Vzw
1 year ago
the Horvath clock can hardly be changed by lifestyle interventions?... and yet there is overwhelming evidence that a healthy lifestyle makes people living longer (and healthier). is this not contradictory?
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premier69
premier69
1 year ago
I've been on a ketogenic diet study binge as of late and i wound up here :)
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Quest Love
Quest Love
1 year ago
Wonderful podcast
john diogenes
john diogenes
1 year ago
Thanks so much for being you Rhonda, I'm hoping you will comment soon on the epigenetic reset of a mouse eye
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SB
SB
9 months ago
Very interesting stuff... but a lot of contradiction too. Lifestyle doesn't make much difference...except it might in specific tissues being an example. Will be watching this field with great interest. I would guess many people wouldn't want to get these tests out of fear.
Julia Hello
Julia Hello
1 year ago
Resveratrol increases the lifespan of several model organisms by regulating oxidative stress, energy metabolism, nutrient sensing, and epigenetics, primarily by activating sirtuin 1.
Bluecloud909
Bluecloud909
1 year ago
Fantastic video. I'm just wondering what supplements Dr Horvath is taking?
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Laymen's Growing
Laymen's Growing
1 year ago
Do you by chance know any good experiments I can do with my diet for educational purposes? I want to put in on my new channel on a health segment. Ive done keto and vegan with great results. Dont mind any diet as long as its not too unhealthy for the before.
kevinsbott
kevinsbott
1 year ago
This is totally amazing!
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GutBubble
GutBubble
1 year ago
Can this test be conducted by a doctors office or a reputable online service? I saw several online but nothing endorsed by Dr Horvath,
Avarua59
Avarua59
1 year ago
Are those variants shown at 27:39 ranked from strongest to weakest?
Marc 300
Marc 300
1 year ago
When will the Horvath clock test be available for purchase? And where?
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I C
I C
1 year ago
The geek in me thanks you! 🤓🙏💞
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Cereal_Qilla
Cereal_Qilla
1 year ago
Rhonda! Can you do a video on aging and hair? What foods to eat to support hair as you age etc? Love you bye
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Abio Genesis
Abio Genesis
1 year ago (edited)
I really appreciate it Rhonda,
Looking forward to a new interview with David Sinclair
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Fact Checker
Fact Checker
1 year ago
I love the interview format with the key researchers instead of another flat presentation that spends too much time on the introduction.
Nate Staab
Nate Staab
1 year ago
You really have to wonder who dislike Dr Patrick’s videos.
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I accept all cookies
1 year ago
Sounds like we're on the cusp of something really big, wrt to the epigenetics of different cell types.
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Quest Love
Quest Love
1 year ago
@40:50 great point indeed Rhonda, proud of you
Rafah Alsahlani
Rafah Alsahlani
1 year ago
Th best I am watching it a few more times sooooo awesome
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Yavuz Bahadır Taktak
Yavuz Bahadır Taktak
7 months ago
what a delicious conversation!
Antonio S
Antonio S
1 year ago
I’d buy your book on Amazon before my girlfriend’s! Where’s it at! This is deep!
AmyNicole321
AmyNicole321
1 year ago
Hi Dr. Rhonda. Any update on the CHORI-Bar? The last article I read said it was going to be available summer 2019, but I cannot find anything else out about it.
Chengue01
Chengue01
1 year ago
What is the defin
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