Women, Low-Fat Diets & Heart Disease w/ Nina Teicholz

Women, Low-Fat Diets & Heart Disease w/ Nina Teicholz High Intensity Health 616K subscribers Subscribe 1.9K Share 67,245 views Jun 7, 2018 Science says eating just one meal per day can improve your health. Learn more at https://highintensityhealth.com/OMAD ----- Nina Teicholz spent nearly a decade of her life unearthing science that pundits pushing the diet-heart hypothesis hoped no one would find. Today she reveals the big takeaways from research and conversations she's had with scientists in the field of nutrition. The Big Fat Surprise: Healthy Diet: http://amzn.to/2CiDQQR ➢ This episode is brought to you by Butcher Box! http://bit.ly/2wEfEHD Serving the High Intensity Health community with truly grass-fed, pasture raised beef, chicken and pork. 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Vegetable oils were unstable and easily go rancid/oxidate. 16:03 The hardening process to make margarine or Crisco, called hydrogenation, produces trans fats. 16:46 When unstable oils are heated, even at room temperature, they oxidize and degrade into hundreds of oxidized products. 17:46 Polyunsaturated vegetable oils show higher rates of death from cancer. 19:40 Americans used to eat 3 to 4 times more red meat than we do today. 24:02 The advice to eat mainly fruits, vegetables and grains is not supported by all the science. 25:27 The nutrients that we need, in their most bioavailable form, come from animal foods. 26:43 The most nutrient dense food on the planet is probably liver. Our ancestors ate organ meats. When predators kill prey, they go for the organs first. 20:38 All foods are a combination of different kinds of fats. 32:54 For women, a low fat diet has no meaningful effect upon weight loss, preventing type 2 diabetes, preventing heart disease or preventing any kind of cancer. 34:05 Low fat diets may increase a woman’s risk of heart disease. Her levels of HDL (good) cholesterol fall and often triglyceride levels rise. 35:07 Many studies become “silent studies”. Since the results do not fit the narrative, they are forgotten and disappear from the literature. 36:27 Over 70 clinical trials have been done on a low carb diet, but researchers cannot get their studies published. 39:15 Researchers in the field of nutrition science stay within the realm of acceptable discourse in their field. This is why the new science about carbohydrate restriction came from people not in the field of nutrition. 43:08 60% of study diabetics on the ketogenic diet were able to reverse their diabetes. In the nutrition field, it is considered impossible. 47:16 Meat is a healthy food that contains vitamins and minerals that you cannot find elsewhere. 51:10 Eat more saturated fat to raise your HDL. Triglycerides are driven by your carbohydrate intake. 56:26 The Mediterranean diet was not scientific. It was a commercial product developed the European Olive Oil Association. 01:01:35 Epidemiology shows association, but not causation. Where their findings are tested in randomized control clinical trials, the Harvard School of Health correlation studies are correct only 0 to 20% of the time. 01:03:20 The dietary guidelines for Americans are not based in evidence. They are the most important nutrition policy in the world. 01:04:45 How do we get dietary guidelines based on rigorous evidence from clinical trials? Key moments View all 386 Comments rongmaw lin Add a comment... Dawn Brosnan Dawn Brosnan 4 years ago I get so mad when I think my poor Mum spent her whole life living low-fat, grilling everything, breaking her heart when she couldn't lose weight, then dying from diabetes related stroke and complications, AND she had Alzheimers. Who is being held responsible for this? No-one probably. Thank you for this interview and the work both of you do/did. 46 Reply 8 replies stephanie Keto person stephanie Keto person 4 years ago Love this woman!!!!!!!! Great interview Mike 👍🏾 45 Reply E Jarrett E Jarrett 4 years ago Wow, that was so interesting that she said this book makes people angry, because that was exactly my reaction. I started reading this book 2 weeks ago, and had to put it down because it made me so angry. In the 90's I obsessively followed a low fat (high sugar) diet and was the heaviest I have been in my life. (I am happy on keto now) It makes me so angry that scientists who questioned the science lost their careers. Great interview. Thanks 32 Reply 5 replies Impulse response Impulse response 4 years ago I've been on LC and intermittent fasting for a year. Dropped about 50lb. Exercise regularly now and also back to been a competing athlete. As the time goes, I am increasing exercises. Getting close to 50. Stopped BP meds. BP is 110/70. Thank you guys for all your work and info! 15 High Intensity Health Reply 1 reply Dean Riley Dean Riley 4 years ago (edited) Shameful how little real science was applied to the dietary recommendations sold to the American public. A giant, awful experiment on the whole country which resulted in 5x the obesity and related diseases since the 1960s. Grateful for people like Teicholz and Taubes among others. 56 High Intensity Health Reply 11 replies Fanny for Fun Fanny for Fun 4 years ago I got curious and just had to go look up the Swedish dietary guidelines, and I wish I hadn't. The blatant promotion of plant fats in favour of butter (other types of animal fats aren't even mentioned) was rather staggering and they had the nerve to write "Research overwhelmingly shows a correlation between plant oils and reduction in cardiovascular disease". These are the same people who used to recommend 5-8 slices of bread per day, so... Not exactly reliable. 20 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 1 reply Susie Hulcher Susie Hulcher 1 year ago Nina is the real deal...smart, transparent, passionate and researched to the max! 1 Reply Akane Cortich Akane Cortich 4 years ago (edited) In the spirit of this reevaluation of health and medical truth I did previously mention that interviewing a cardiologist on K2 would be interesting - but now think that the most interesting interview would be with Dr Tom Cowan, who has been around for a while, done decades research on what causes heart attacks - and categorically states that the thrombosis mechanism for heart attack causation is totally wrong - he presents data to back up his claims, and provides a more logical explanation that matches up with what we know about the body and muscle. He also explains elsewhere why the heart is Not a pump - and again provides pretty good rationale for that. I did listen one of his lectures - and so people know what he is talking about I copy here a summary I did elsewhere - hopefully I have been faithful to his assertions. Summary. Heart attack is via poor oxygen supply to the heart muscle (due to long term damaged to/or constricted capillaries), the heart changes its manner function to compensate (the same as our other muscles do) which then creates lactic acidosis that isn't being cleared (because of poor capillary perfusion), thus causing pain and cell death - ie heart attack. The thrombosis that is found in arteries after a heart attack is an artifact of the attack, not the cause, a result of the trauma in the heart muscle - and as stated the material in these 'clots' are mostly material from cell death. The medicine digitalis has zero effect on blood clots/thrombosis but is statistically very successful in saving a person from their heart attack - and the action of digitalis happens to be to help clear lactic acidosis! From patients who have died from heart attack it was shown that the amount of thrombosis in the arteries was related to how long it took them to die from the heart attack. If they died quickly little thrombosis was found, if it were some hours, there was much more thrombosis (this is the opposite of what you would expect if thrombosis was the cause). It indicates that the heart attack by product was to cause blood clots 'down stream' - thus the death of heart muscles nothing to do with blood clots / thrombosis. And as was known prior to 1960, thrombosis was not the cause of heart attacks. The precursor to heart attacks then is the continual damage to capillaries in the body, especially those that feed to the heart muscle. Diabetics with uncontrolled blood sugar/insulin are known to have neuropathies (due to extensive damage to capillaries feeding nerves), and thus the same damage would be occurring in the heart muscle. And this is then why diabetics are at high risk of heart disease/heart attack. So for the general community poor diet with sugars also causes damage to capillaries, and poor Vitamin D3 and K2 means extensive calcification throughout the body, including vessels and capillaries. This is why Connery Artery Calcification (CAC score) is a very good predictor of future hear attack - it is representative of damage throughout the body - calcification comes from poor diet and inflammation, likewise plaque. Carbohydrates and sugars being the prominent cause of these things. And it thus meaningful that those who go on long term ketogenic diets/lifestyle dramatically reduce their CAC score and cardiac risk., ie limit long term capillary damage. It has been assumed After the 1960s that cholesterol-artery plaque was the risk factor and then the cause of heart attack. But postmortem examination tends to not support this theory, with there being little instance of full blockage, or even minimal blockage in many cases - and there is now good reason to suspect that blockages occur After the attack due to damaged/dead heart material flowing down stream. THUS those wanting to avoid heart attack in the future now have a very clear target - and that target is to protect the capillaries of the body (those very fine blood vessels that feed muscle). And the only way to do this is manage inflammation as a part of lifestyle - which means carefully control blood sugar levels in your eating habits. Reducing the number and level of BS spikes to a minimum. Unfortunately this means cutting back drastically on carbohydrates and sugars. AND also reducing the level of calcification in the body due to poor diet (lack of vitamin D3 and K2) which will for most mean D3 and K2 supplement. (but take heart K2 has been show to protect against prostate cancer). You wont be surprised then that statins (meant to reduce LDL cholesterol) have statistically very little effect on longevity. Basically of very little use, and have side effects. What you should take home from 'poor' cholesterol results is that your lifestyle is harmful to those forgotten by highly critical capillaries. 11 Reply 1 reply mecgmecg1 mecgmecg1 4 years ago MUCH appreciation to Nina!!! Just ordered the book!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! 11 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 1 reply Nicky Lin Nicky Lin 4 years ago That was epic!!!!!!!! Thank you so much for this interview!!!! As I listened to it I popped some bacon into the oven, rolled some meatballs and when the bacon was done baked the meatballs in the bacon grease. Been doing keto for 5 months and feel sooooo great. I was also vegetarian for 8 years (in high school and collage) I feel like it ruined my health. I’ve never felt better than I do on keto and that’s largely thanks to your team at High Intensity Health. Thank you thank you thank you!!!!!!! 8 Reply BigTimbers BigTimbers 4 years ago I was just wondering what to read next this morning. Definitely going to pickup a copy of her book now. I had seen it and was delighted to see another book supporting fat. Thanks for the interview Mike! 17 High Intensity Health Reply Carmen Dunn Carmen Dunn 4 years ago Thank you for re-inspiring me. This just gave me goosebumps. I can't wait to share this with my clients, family & friends! Love your interviews ❤️. Reply Debra L. Debra L. 4 years ago Excellent video. I'm a huge fan of Nina's work and book! 9 High Intensity Health Reply kagiwPilipinas kagiwPilipinas 4 years ago Love this episode, watched her on low carb down under and I have been a fan. Great information, thanks again for educating me. 8 High Intensity Health Reply Keto as a Last Resort 최후의수 Keto as a Last Resort 최후의수 4 years ago Thanks for another great interview. It's great to hear about updates on Nina's work. Can't believe that it took 3 years for the academia to accept her works though.. 6 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 1 reply Heavymetalcat Heavymetalcat 3 years ago She is sooo smart! I love her, I hope I can be just like her, spreading the truth. I'm a type one diabetic 22yrs old woman, I feel so inspired with her. 🙌🥰 thanks for this interview Reply ritchiereech ritchiereech 4 years ago (edited) It is amazing how the wrong doing of a single individual not only set back nutritional science decades but also compromised the health of a whole country (and several others that followed). 4 Reply Hermes /Toth Rose63 Hermes /Toth Rose63 4 years ago This is one of your best interviews Mike to date, good work Mike..Ben Bikmans interview was great too! Honest science will change the paradigm.. 2 Reply yotersmitt yotersmitt 4 years ago Thanks much for the word for word captions, my spouse would not watch/listen without them. This is such an important subject, thank you Nina for sharing what you've discovered/uncovered. 1 Reply Dean Riley Dean Riley 4 years ago (edited) Couldn't agree more about chicken; I grew up on real farm-raised chicken (and meat) and it looked/tasted nothing like the chicken in the supermarkets today. The farm raised chickens have eggs with dark yellow yolks. If possible find your local farmers to get good meat, milk, eggs, and support the local farmers, and get food at a good price. 54 Reply 2 replies Lili Robin Lili Robin 4 years ago Thank-you Mike. I definitely learn the most from your channel. I bought my brother-in-law Dr. Fung's Diabetes Code, I read it before giving it to him. I will definitely get Nina's book and read it before giving it to someone to help but many could benefit so I might have to buy two. Cheers! 1 Reply Ziza Vancouver Ziza Vancouver 4 years ago Thank you very much for all the great contents. Another informative collaboration. 20 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 1 reply J Maritato J Maritato 4 years ago Awesome interview! She is one smart powerhouse of a woman!👍👍 1 Reply Ordinary Guy Ordinary Guy 4 years ago (edited) I'm Chinese Australian, my culture have cooked with LARD for as long as Chinese culture existed! My Chinese grandmother grew up in rural village in China in 1920s. The villagers there always cooked with Lard, heart disease was very rare and most elderly lived to the age 90. My grandmother didn't know what Olive oil was, or Olives for that matter. I didn't know what olive was in my teenage years living in Asia. My first experience with olive was on a pizza at age 14! I learned what olive is after I migrated to Australia at age 17. The idea of Mediterranean diet and olives, makes no bloody sense to my grandmother, my culture and to me for that matter! It never make sense to me how the western nutritionist, pushing Mediterranean diet for everyone on Earth, regardless of their geographic location. 19 Reply 8 replies Iron Heaver Iron Heaver 4 years ago Thanks so much for interviewing NIna.Great conversation.I've read her book.She is a real journalistic hero to spend years doing this research.She has done a detailed job of exposing the business,and beliefs behind the US food guidelines.The USDA has been merrily cereal stuffing Americans into illness,and an early grave.It's particularly poignant to remember her contribution to the trail of South African researcher Tim Noakes.She,and Zoe Harcombe gave supporting evidence for Professor Noakes.He was finally fully vindicated just a few days ago after his second trail at the hands of the mainstream South African dietary organizations who were attacking him.The mainstream business supported dieticians are slowly losing ( scratching and clawing every inch ).But the truth is getting out. Reply Ciara Griffin Ciara Griffin 4 years ago Amazing content. Just received DNA reports recommending I eat higher polyunsaturated than saturated fat. Can't wait to read this book, thanks Mike and thanks Nina for the great work Reply POWER & WILL POWER & WILL 3 years ago It's true. I been mad for over 9 months because I lost 120 pounds doing keto. I didn't even know this book. I get pissed when I read carb counts on food in the store. I waisted my life with the low fat high sugar diet. I be in the store saying bastards trying to kill us 1 Reply Neato Keto Neato Keto 4 years ago Such a good interview!! Thank you both! 3 Reply Deborah Mac Deborah Mac 4 years ago Fascinating. It is still a conundrum why these studies have not been assimilated into our general knowledge/awareness through public education in all it's forms like other schools of nutritional thought. 1 Reply queenbee3988 queenbee3988 4 years ago Ever since my sister told me in 2008 to google "Lipid Hypothesis", I have been trying to explain to people exactly what she is saying here. Thank you so much for doing this interview, and thank you so much to the author for writing this book! I can rant and rave a little less to people when they say something about consuming less saturated fat. The WAPF is a bit extreme, and so I hope her coalition can fill the void of a cogent advocate for changes to the dietary guidelines. Also it's true, in my experience, that American guidelines spread throughout the world. I live in Germany and the vegan diet is just starting to become popular here. No German had heard of it 10 years ago, but now they are all eating margarine and thinking it's healthy. 3 Reply 1 reply Elena Khromova Elena Khromova 4 years ago Amazing interview. THANK YOU for sharing a valuable knowledge 9 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 1 reply Kerrie Chabot Kerrie Chabot 4 years ago The French have known this (naturally) for a long time. My French husband always refused to buy lowfat milk, yogurt, etc. 99 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 16 replies T D T D 4 years ago (edited) Thanks for posting this Mike. It's like a service you do for people. Nitrogen spiked 'grass fed' beef... great. I just refuse Buthcher Box's info harvesting prior to seeing prices and that pressure tactic of a timer. I don't trust a firm like that. I'd need evidence that they are trustworthy now. my .02 7 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 2 replies deborah bailey deborah bailey 4 years ago 45:00 just WOW!! Many others WoW moments, sharing this with family and friends, many think I've lost my mind not eating sugar or bread; but I haftar tell you, in 4 weeks 4 of my family have lost over 75 lbs!!! My chronic neck pain of >15 years gone, just gone!!!!!! 3 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 2 replies Jordan Rivera Jordan Rivera 4 years ago I lean toward a keto diet, and my HDL was 96 (never that high before), and my triglycerides were 45 - never been so good. I eat lots of vegies too, mostly greens. I purposely consume coconut oil or grass-fed ghee in the morning - I just learned how to make ghee and it tastes like caramel (in my opinion) - I just add some caramel-flavored stevia to it and and eat it plain. I do intermittent fasting and have so much energy when I'm not eating in the morning. 1 Reply 1 reply rationalguy rationalguy 3 years ago (edited) Wish I'd known this before my previous high carb American diet screwed up my metabolism and I became a fat diabetic. On an ultra low carb diet, it's reversing. I lost 50 lbs and reduced A1c from 9.2 to 5.8 1 Reply 1 reply Marisa Wiggins Marisa Wiggins 3 years ago I can't do straight liver but I can stomach liverwurst. I think its because it looks so different from a packaged calve's liver, and its spiced with garlic and onion, and you could also do black pepper or hot peppers or add some kind of sauce to it(if you wished). I just take mine out of the packaging (not Kahn's as it has disgusting corn syrup in it; there's other brands without that garbage, just read the labels) and I melt a few tablespoons of real butter and just fry it to my taste(the level of golden brown I want) and lunchtime! Reply Rara Avis Rara Avis 4 years ago Freaking love Nina Teichholz 👍 3 Reply kickn-aDead-cat kickn-aDead-cat 3 years ago My parents and grandparents lived into their late 80s and mid 90s in Italy and this is what they ate.... they were sharecroppers which means they work the land and got part of the bounty. In the summer they have vegetables and fruits. They raise chickens and ducks for eggs and meat. They also raised pigs to make sausages that would get them through the winter. They had a cow for milk and to make cheese which would also last them through the winter. They grew wheat and from that they made bread and pasta which they had year-round. Wheat was cheap and could be held year-round so that was at least half of what they ate. They lived in the mountains so they had very little access to doctors, certainly no nutritional advice. But what they all had was diabetes but even so they managed to live long lives. My grandmother had both of her legs amputated still managed to live to 93 with all her faculties. I was diagnosed prediabetic at age 66. Went keto for a year and still doing it moderately. Meaning very low carb most of the time. I still bake bread once a month and have a slice or two. I still make homemade pasta and have a small bowl once or twice a month. Eliminated all sugar. My age A1c is normal 5.4. My fasting blood glucose usually in the low 100s. Since I’m genetically predisposed to diabetes I don’t believe that my blood glucose will ever be constantly in the low 90s. But I lost 25 pounds and I’ve been working out three days a week in the gym. I also lost 5 inches off my waist and now wear the same size clothes as I did in my mid20s. On holidays I still have a pastry or ice cream but never In excess. I treat carbs and sugar as a treat that I can have on occasion but that’s it. My feeling is if I live to their age I’ll be doing it a lot healthier and stronger. If not I’ll be the fittest corpse in the cemetery. Reply La Mariana La Mariana 4 years ago Thank you for this guys. Always bringing the best in. 5 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 1 reply Anthony Lubic Anthony Lubic 4 years ago She’s great thanks for sharing 👍🏻 1 Reply Win Balingit Win Balingit 1 year ago Nina is a REAL American heroine!!!😁👍🏽✌🏽 1 Reply Final Start Fitness Final Start Fitness 4 years ago This one of my favs that you have done Mike!! Love it my man!! Reply laser leftfoot laser leftfoot 3 years ago In 1979 when I graduated from college and had the big job, I walked into the grocery store thinking the hell with it, I'm gonna have a rib eye sautéed in butter and garlic. I'm gonna have two! Reply Jefferdaughter Jefferdaughter 4 years ago In the 1970s, the religious idealists had been promoting a vegetarian diet for a long time already. Then the cost of meat, especially beef and lamb, increased - while starchy foods were cheaper. Mike is right - what the chicken eats makes a huge difference in the nutrient content of the chicken (and the eggs they lay). This should be obvious... but Big Chicken (sorry, couldn't resist) does not care about nutrient content; they sell chicken by the pound. Of course this is true of all whole foods - so remember that the next time someone make an issue over the higher prices for organic, free-range, pastured, grassfed foods. Cheapest is not always the best deal. Commercial eggs are produced by different chickens. The industrial /commercial meat chickens are unable to live beyond a few months of age, though most will die before then. This is due to a 'double breast' gene that makes the white breast meat huge, but their cardiovascular capacity is not proportionally larger. They are usually harvested at 8-10 weeks of age. Along with the diet (Which is typically carefully formulated, yes for lowest input that still yields the fastest gains) that lacks bugs and fresh greens, the young age is why these chickens are almost flavorless compared to 'the real thing'. (Though some CAFO raised chicken tastes distinctly of chicken manure.) Some small farmers keep them a little longer, but growers are warned not to let them flap their wings, because tat will cause bruising in the breastmeat. Some people criticize Joel Salatins pasture pens for the broiler chickens because there are no perches, but these birds cannot fly up to a perch, and are likely to suffer or die if they try. Salatin says the idea of heritage meat chickens is wonderful, but the chickens look different from what customers are used to (smaller breast, more dark meat, not as chunky) AND the heritage breeds cost more to raise... and take longer to get to harvest size. Keep these things in mind next time you are shopping for food. 4 Reply Wild Rose 🌸 Wild Rose 🌸 4 years ago Wow! She's great. Thanks for the education :-) 2 Reply Lycantis Lycantis 4 years ago Very great interview. A lot of what's in her book is also in mine and on my site. I have more details on the reason muscle meats are not so great versus organs. One addition I might add is that pigs do not actually convert junk to anything healthful or useful. They convert it to fat just like humans do. If you want to fatten a pig, you feed him cereal and skim milk. This was confirmed in 1910 by swine farmers. Chickens have a mostly carnivorous but lower-fat need because they eat small rodents (rabbits, mice, squirrels, etc), insects, and some plants and whole, unground seeds. The seeds go through their system without digesting and make up anywhere from 2%-10% of their diet and seem to be there with the same purpose as rocks (little hard things to grind their food in the gizzard) then are pooped out in a pile of fresh fertilizer. All of these foods are actually lower fat than things like deer and bison. Animals like humans, felines, and wolves thrive on the fatty animal flesh and equally, have a large gall bladder--something needed by carnivores, smaller in lower-fat omnivores, and non-functional OR nonexistent in herbivores. I went vegetarian for only two years, but because of disorders and already being sensitive, it almost killed me and I suffered severe deficiencies of things I have a hard time getting in the first place. Now I find out I have a disorder where I am completely intolerant of carbohydrate so I choose to live a Carnivore lifestyle with herbs here and there but mainly I just eat organ meats and fewer muscle meats, lots of fat, egg yolks without the white (allergic to the white but not yolk because of some specific lectins not identified but I know those cause allergies), and I drink water or whole milk or even pure cream. My brain fog and early-onset dementia reversed and only the peripheral neuropathy flares once in a while when I do eat any plants. I lost somewhere between 130-150 lbs (I hadn't weighed myself prior, but my doctor's visit I was 256 lbs, and I was heavier at the time I dropped carbs). I reversed several inflammatory and diabetic markers. My depression has been getting better over time. My blood panels are fantastic. When I found the information, I was livid;I had been following the recommendations to a T but I was wrong, I was at fault. But here, the science says the opposite, and what I was following was corporate propaganda, religious propaganda (Ellen White, Sylvester Graham, John Harvey Kellogg--religious nuts pushing vegetarian, high-fiber diet but without substantiated evidence to prove health), and pushing a diet which is fed to animals to fatten them up. This, most of all, is what prompted me to write about it and include the science. Reply Owen Kelchner Owen Kelchner 4 years ago I like how they conveniently add luncheon meat in with red meat in studies against meat consumption like it’s the same thing. 18 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 7 replies DK viking KD DK viking KD 4 years ago Asking scientific questions about the health of carbs are apparently as dangerous for a scientific career as asking questions about climate change.. a lot of ideology in the scientific world and it's kind of disgraceful! 22 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 9 replies URwatchueat URwatchueat 4 years ago LOL I do the same thing, trimming the fat off a piece of meat without even thinking about it. It's not easy to change a habit started some 30 years ago. Reply hanaq8q8 hanaq8q8 4 years ago (edited) Thanks for sharing all of this info and research !! Well worth 1hr ten minutes of my lifetime!! Can I ask a question please- if chicken is so nutritrient deficient how come chicken soup is supposed to be the best healing food in recovering from flu ? Is it also another myth I need to unbelieve? How do you find the meal substitutes which are in powder form such as vibrant health? Thanks upfront ! Reply Marco Marco 4 years ago (edited) It is already unbelievable how they sold to the Americans this weird idea that Mediterranean diet is devoid of meat. But it is so incredible how this myth turned around and got here in Italy too were old people on the mountain villages still eat a Mediterranean diet made of a lot of meat, fish and cheese..and of course olive oil and many herbs and some legumes and bread as side dish. Wheat was common only after WW2. But if you ask anybody what the Med. diet is, they think pasta and pizza and the nutritionists add fresh fruit and vegetables (what we had not in such an industrial adbundance as today) to the grains. Fortunally fish is still considered important even by the mainstream but the war against meat is very on and common are the stupid tips such as red meat once a week, to eat poultry instead and so on. 2 Reply Jeremy S. Jeremy S. 4 years ago Since protein also causes insulin to be released, what is the difference between lowering carbs and going high protein, and not lowering carbs? I know there is a difference but I was wondering what it is. Reply my personal channel my personal channel 4 years ago Great video! I miss the questions at the end though I really weirdly enjoy knowing people morning routine Reply The Vitality Experience The Vitality Experience 4 years ago Hey Mike, you know what would be awesome? I don't know if someone with really good credentials exists that's really well-versed on the mechanisms through which high-carb, very low fat and high fat, very low carb diets work. The only truly unbiased person I've come across on the net is Denise Minger. Anyone else like her that can find a way to explain why both extremes are effective in achieving good health and disease reversal? I read Denise's blog on the randal-cycle and it makes sense to me, but that is literally the only piece of literature that explains this phenomenon (and other google searches using the term). Would be great to bring someone on the podcast that doesn't turn their cheek on things that don't fit their world-view. I'm a seeker of truth, and I think the reality is that both extremes seem to have very therapeutic benefits (as I think you would agree). And I say this as a huge advocate of the ketogenic diet as that is how I optimally function. Do you foresee any interviews like this in the future of your podcast? P.S. CAN'T WAIT FOR OURA RING CODE YAYAYAY. :) No rush :P 6 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 9 replies machyne82 machyne82 4 years ago Omg amazing interview! Love it! 3 High Intensity Health Reply Halfmoon Raven Halfmoon Raven 4 years ago (edited) Follow the money ... If it is on TV it likely no good for anything, and when they say it's healthy, they are flat out lying. I truly love Pork, Beef comes a close second, Eggs and Cheese. Avocados, Nuts, and Winter Squash. I cook in Lard, and use lot's of butter, salt and pepper. 14 Reply 1 reply Vaughn Malecki Vaughn Malecki 4 years ago She's so beautiful and intelligent. I'm starting the book very soon. Keep up the great work. God bless you both. Reply Marisa Wiggins Marisa Wiggins 3 years ago (edited) I learned that the hard way, that low-fat does NOT work. I now have fatty liver and high blood pressure and more, after 31 years of garbage, before learning the truth about nutrition. I Did have diabetes too but I conquered that, after 9 months of carnivore in '18 Reply TB1M1 TB1M1 4 years ago (edited) Of course low fat variants of foods don't lead to weight loss. The problem is people eat the wrong kinds of foods. More beans, vegetables, fruits, unrefined grains, nuts. If you keep dairy in the diet in any form the IGF1 will promote weight gain - moreso with low fat because the protein/fat ratio is higher. Not to mention the quantity of sugar added into yoghurt these days but that's another issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R1E3CqZeg8 4 Reply S. Bryan Reinholdt JR S. Bryan Reinholdt JR 4 years ago Great interview. Bought the audio book for the drive home. Reply patti ann patti ann 4 years ago great video! so informative! 7 High Intensity Health Reply Hanna Nowak Hanna Nowak 3 years ago I feel great on a plant based diet. I live on fruit and vegetables never felt better. 1 Reply Cristina Montejo Cristina Montejo 7 months ago If you want recipes, mexican food has lots of them. Remember we were conquered by Spain, France, England, Germany...? Well, we learned to cook everything for them. [We had fish, rabbits, iguanas and poultry, but] they came with pigs and cows and recipes developed during their wars when nothing went to spoil. So we kept their recipes and added them all the delicious vegetables our land grows. Reply HelmetBlissta HelmetBlissta 4 years ago Thank you Nina. Thank you Mike. 8 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 1 reply Raina Grazia Raina Grazia 4 years ago This is a great video. Eye-opening! 5 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 2 replies jay mumford jay mumford 3 years ago 53:44 Triglycerides are driven by carbohydrates: my doctor had no idea why my triglycerides had gone up and were so high- so much for doctors advice. 1 Reply Iain Dennis Iain Dennis 3 years ago Eating offal is vital for nutrition - try liver, bacon and sausage casserole, as children my brother and I loved it. Fry slices of haggis in lard and serve with scrambled eggs - delicious. The English Breakfast includes Black Pudding, made of fat and pigs blood, so tasty. Reply Umar Latif Umar Latif 4 years ago Nina is a godess😊 3 Reply Akane Cortich Akane Cortich 4 years ago A lot of Gospel Nutrition and Heart Health mantra has been built around the basis of business development for the medical/medicine industry, as we can see here 70 clinical trials become invisible. Look how hard the cigarette industry fought to disprove the link between smoking and cancer. 1 Reply Ken Marcus Ken Marcus 4 years ago (edited) Great interview once again! I do like your preview snippets method. 8 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 1 reply Jefferdaughter Jefferdaughter 4 years ago The calcium in spinach is in the form of calcium oxalate, which is completely loced up and totally unavailable to the human body. This substance forms crystals that can lodge in and grow in the kidneys, forming stones that are extremely painful to pass. Calcium oxalate crystals can also affect other tissues, causing pain and damage. See the Ancestral Health channel on YouTube for documentation. 1 Reply 1 reply James Diamond James Diamond 4 years ago “The efforts to keep Americans from lowering their meat intake include some important new allies. Nina Teicholz, author of The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet, and the Nutrition Coalition, backed by John and Laura Arnold, billionaires from Texas whose fortunes are tied back to Enron, have joined in as major power players in the fight, according to an in-depth report from Politico. According to Politico, before the Nutrition Coalition was officially formed, Teicholz attended a meeting with representatives for ConAgra, the Grocery Manufacturers Association, and the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association, among others, to talk about whether criticizing the guidelines from the scientific standpoint would “create new opportunities” for rewriting the recommendations.” Following her op-eds in the The New York Times and Wall Street Journal about why “Americans need more meat, dairy, and eggs in their diets, Teicholz also recently published a feature report in BMJ, formerly known as the British Medical Journal, directly questioning the scientific approach behind this year’s USDA/HHS advisory report. The BMJ story was underwritten by the Arnolds, who “are spending an initial $200,000 to communicate [the scientific] critique” of the guidelines submitted by the government’s advisory panel.” For this purpose “They have funded The Nutrition Coalition.” In the BMJ article Teicholz admits to receiving money... “for presenting my research findings presented in the book to a variety of groups related to the medical, restaurant, financial, meat, and dairy industries.” “Nina Teicholz serves on the Nutrition Coalition’s governing board, comprised of scientists who do research funded by food companies and have received industry funding over the years for their research and work from Dannon Institute, Kraft General Foods, the National Dairy Council, a non-profit supported by the dairy checkoff program, The Beef Checkoff, Dairy Research Institute, Egg Nutrition Center, Global Dairy Platform, Hillshire Brands, and the National Pork Board.” The board also includes “a former undersecretary for food safety at USDA who has her own consulting firm with clients apparently including the National Restaurant Association and the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association.” https://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h4962 https://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/the-money-behind-the-fight-over-healthy-eating-214517 https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/healthcare/257353-coalition-is-full-of-baloney-on-nutrition-guidelines https://www.foodpolitics.com/2015/10/the-bizarre-saga-of-the-2015-dietary-guidelines-continued/ https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/10/meat-industry-lobbying-political-nutrition/412243/ Reply Paco Rodriguez Paco Rodriguez 4 years ago I'm completely shocked that there was 70 dumb unintelligent people that gave this video a thumbs down that's great video as always thank you for the free education 2 Reply 2 replies Christopher Wolf Christopher Wolf 2 years ago I swear you’re the best interviewer Reply Genki Dama Genki Dama 4 years ago What about POPs like Dioxins, PCBs and heavy metals? I recently had a chance to sample some of the book "How Not to Die" by a vegan Dr. He uses these pollutants and their prevalence in animal fats as a big reason to go plant-based. Are the risks and prevalence of these toxins overblown? I haven't seen anyone in the LCHF world address this. However it did remind me of your recent guest Paul Anderson when he said he had a cancer patient who he believed was harmed by heavy metals in meat. (IIRC, going off memory). 6 Reply 4 replies katsavidiz katsavidiz 4 years ago Fat is where the flavor is....your body is telling you to eat it! 8 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 1 reply tserevenad tserevenad 1 year ago (edited) excellent interview. Analogous to vax propaganda and big pharma in general oh and even global warming. agenda driven policy/ideology which is sadly bought and paid for; it isn't solely about greed. Reply Neena Me Neena Me 4 years ago At 57.38 The Mediterranean Diet....that is why we started to see every cooking show and TV Chef using and espousing the wonders of Olive Oil and that we all needed to use a Olive Oil for cooking. But now the science is there that Olive oil should not be heated to a very high temperature because it becomes unstable and not good for human consumption! Reply Lars Mith Lars Mith 4 years ago hypertensive individuals can benefit by eradicating "table salt" from ALL their foods and opt, instead, for celtic and/or sea salt. 3 Reply B81 Mack B81 Mack 3 years ago Great interview, very intelligent and caring woman. Reply Lynn Sopwith Lynn Sopwith 4 years ago Ironically the same bad science on Nutrition seems to be occurring on Climate Science. 2 Reply 1 reply Teresa Dougherty Teresa Dougherty 4 years ago There's a HUGe difference in nutritional quality, taste, omegas.....between grass fed and conventionally raised beef!!!!!! I'm surprised she believes other wise!! Reply Mark Mark 3 years ago Dietary Guidelines for Americans - housed at the Ministry of Agriculture (wow) - food advice for home, hospitals, schools, based on no evidence, the authors ignored all trials. Reply Sarah M Holland Sarah M Holland 4 years ago IMO: I was not able to support her statement that any meat is more nutrient dense than a salad with all the nutrient dense vegetables and olive oil. 2 Reply 3 replies nanchesca nanchesca 4 years ago Great stuff!! Reply M B M B 4 years ago Superb interview Reply Luca M Luca M 4 years ago governments have been providing reasonable dietary recommendations, which when the sales of fast food, processed food, animal foods and alcohol are assessed doesn't support the argument that the guidelines failed the publics health but rather the public, in general have not been following the dietary guidelines. Reply itay mitra itay mitra 4 years ago Adore your videos,,,thank u thank u,,, Reply Andrew Clancy Andrew Clancy 4 years ago "Animals exist as a source of protein for humans" That's crazy. Truly. 5 Reply 1 reply Kevin Mackin Kevin Mackin 4 years ago "Like" it was a "like" excellant in substance and "like" reminded me why "like" I was so impressed with the book when I "like" read it when it "like" first came out. Mike--the subjects of all your videos are very interesting but I can only take them in small doses. Intelligent and well spoken people do not use "like" as every other word in intelligent discourse. It tkes away from the gravity and importance of the subject matter (and is irritating as hell). Reply mjenk20236 mjenk20236 4 years ago Interview starts at 5:40 after commercial 1 Reply pools closed pools closed 4 years ago Lean beef is more nutrient dense than fatty cuts. How many people prefer to eat super lean low fat cuts of steak? Reply 1 reply A. L. A. L. 3 years ago Just read the german "guidelines" 5 times vegetables and fruit a day, use vegetable oil, meat 300-600g per week Reply Jungle Theme Jungle Theme 4 years ago (edited) How is this not supporting a meat industry that might be suffering from veganism though? Who paid for her research and her book? 3 Reply 2 replies Barbara Mowrey Barbara Mowrey 4 years ago My dad ate every part of the animal as he raised cattle. He had 4 quadruple bypass surgeries before he literally drooped dead while getting a glass of cows milk. Fat clogs and stops insulin from entering the cells. I'm type 1 diabetic. I research all the time. 1 Reply 5 replies Umar Latif Umar Latif 4 years ago I am keto convert and I eat brain kidney liver in abundance😈.... no blood though😸 5 Reply 2 replies misterbobdobalina misterbobdobalina 4 years ago These discussions are always going to go in circles. There are so many variables to diet. I think it’s pointless to compare cultural diets and lifestyles without considering the circumstances surrounding the development of them. Slaves may have been fed to be strong but not mentally or spiritually sound. So why would anyone want to follow a slave diet?? Tricknology. 1 Reply 3 replies B81 Mack B81 Mack 3 years ago So... after 30+ years, I should go back to eating liverwurst??? This is big... 1 Reply pools closed pools closed 4 years ago Only partially hydrogenated oil will have trans fat. Fully hydrogenated oils have no trans fat. Butter has trans fat. Bovine meat has trans fat. Not all vegetables are the same. The Masai are very physically active. The men regularly travel 10 miles on foot every day. That delays the onset of cardiovascular disease with such a high animal fat intake. Most beef isn’t a great source of iron. 85% lean ground beef has only 30% of the DRI of iron in 1/3 pound and 350 calories. Just to get the DRI of iron from that would be 1 pound and 1000 calories. Reply presjo presjo 4 years ago Perhaps you could get some credible guests on, who actually have a proper education, and have published peer reviewed articles/studies? these biased interviews are getting fairly one-sided. Reply High Intensity Health · 1 reply tuffiwuffi tuffiwuffi 4 years ago great content 😎 2 High Intensity Health Reply timshel Leo timshel Leo 4 years ago Makes one wonder if anything is true...Does the heart really do the impossible by pumping blood ? (another lie) 1 Reply soundbuy soundbuy 4 years ago Food or Fat for thought, cheers.....informative 1 Reply pools closed pools closed 4 years ago Can anybody explain how high triglycerides cause heart disease? 2 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 3 replies Jefferdaughter Jefferdaughter 4 years ago Mike Mutzel - You mean well, but companies like Butcher Box are taking business away from real farmers raising real food on real farms. Your small, local and regional family owned and run farm, raising meats on pasture, and/or raising vegetables are losing sales to companies like Butcher Box, the 'meal in a box' services, and to stores like Whole Foods. Sales at Farmer's Markets are also going down... When you buy directly from farmers, you know you are supporting open space, family farms, and if you have done your homework on the farms - you are supporting eco-agriculture. When you buy food from anywhere else, the farmers are not getting most of the profit on that food; the retail marketers are. 11 Reply 2 replies Athina V. Athina V. 4 years ago (edited) are you kidding me? I am from Greece. The Mediterranean diet is such a stretched concept. Now its full of junk food. but my parents who live in a tiny village and my grandparents grow and eat their own vegetables, have their own chickens and eggs, and eat lots of meat. in Easter we traditionally eat meat organs. i could never manage that. mainly the healthy Mediterranean diet is lots of vegetables, meat, olive oil, and fruit but not processed food. dah thats healthy. oh and back in the day you did not have bananas in the mediterrenean. the mediterrenean diet in a village means you have access to few fruits like a desert. its not like you go to a supermarket and you buy a ton of bananas. if you omit the fruits and have lots of meat veggies and olive oil its keto, if you add the fruit is something else. and of course as everyone is saying the wheat they were eating in the past was different from the processed wheat they are eating now. and I want to add another variable. back then they were walking miles per day. and they were going without food for hours. which is exercise and fasting. my father would be for hours working mainly with his body and come back home in the evening often to eat his first meal of the day. so we are talking about the basics applied in every traditional culture .cut out processed food, add some sustainable fasting , walk a lot, do some exercise, spend time in nature. eat with family and friends 1 Reply Neena Me Neena Me 4 years ago (edited) Mike The Framingham Study Nina talks about is at 12:02 . Cheers 2 Reply Jana Raiser Jana Raiser 3 years ago Amazing. Reply CarnOMAD CarnOMAD 4 years ago My takeaway: low carbs for low trigs; high saturated fat for high LDL. 2 Reply High Intensity Health · 2 replies ASAP Mangos ASAP Mangos 4 years ago I hope you can get Gary Taubes in. 33 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 3 replies Rxi S Rxi S 4 years ago Funny I crave vegetables and lentils 😊 11 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 14 replies stevensonrf stevensonrf 4 years ago It’s my Favorite Health Elf :-) 2 Reply 🅰𝚴Ꭰ𝐘𝗚🅰𝘙◎𝟷👽🅰𝗚𝟷 🅰𝚴Ꭰ𝐘𝗚🅰𝘙◎𝟷👽🅰𝗚𝟷 4 years ago She, or this channel, should hook up with Frank Tufano ! 1 Reply BaccaratFitness BaccaratFitness 4 years ago I can barely hear you but she comes in loud and clear on this... 1 Reply High Intensity Health · 2 replies JK JK 4 years ago How does this compare to Dean Ornish and his findings with cardiac imaging ? 1 Reply 1 reply ron hanish ron hanish 4 years ago MEAT MAKES U STRONG VEGGIES MAKE U HEALTHY 1 Reply TheHoth1 TheHoth1 2 years ago Just follow the money I guess. There is a lot of money to be made by pharmaceutical companies, if there are a lot sick people in the world. The big pharmaceutical companies don’t care, the politicians don’t care, our governments don’t care. You obviously care. That’s why you are here watching this video;) Reply Keto Case Keto Case 4 years ago Ketomania Brother. 1 Reply 🅰𝚴Ꭰ𝐘𝗚🅰𝘙◎𝟷👽🅰𝗚𝟷 🅰𝚴Ꭰ𝐘𝗚🅰𝘙◎𝟷👽🅰𝗚𝟷 4 years ago we dont need no avocados or coconuts exported by plane from other hemisphere, all we need is happy animals that ate grass on the fields under lots of sun. ... their meat, their good fats,their organs, their raw milk and their eggs. And gosh, we definitely dont need refined soap oil as a " h.e.a.l.t.h.i.e.r. o.p.t.i.o.n " ???!!!! Reply 1 reply Daniela Cojocaru Daniela Cojocaru 3 years ago Let me tell you something, we have never eaten oils! Never! We only eat lard from our pigs in our garden! My grand grand nana died with 102, all others too early! Why? Because they got across oils! They dont do good! Never! People, eat only what you can do yourself, no industrial managened foods! 1 Reply Elijah Schnake Elijah Schnake 4 years ago Liver is delicious. Why would you hide it? I fry it up solo. 11 High Intensity Health Reply 3 replies jay mumford jay mumford 3 years ago Do they not know that they're lying? Reply Bambolin Cyprus Bambolin Cyprus 4 years ago So, americans used to eat quite a lot of meat.... to be strong.... but how long did they live? 9 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 7 replies kinpatu kinpatu 4 years ago Can someone spell the name of the cardiologist mentioned at 43:45? Reply 2 replies Fred Cory Fred Cory 4 years ago Is there anything in BFS that isn't in Taubes' GC,BC? Reply 1 reply TheCompleteGuitarist TheCompleteGuitarist 4 years ago sorry but weren't the original recommendations for men also based on zero data? Reply Akane Cortich Akane Cortich 4 years ago Liver! Watch killer whales chase down Great White Sharks - they just eat out the liver of the sharks. 1 Reply 1 reply Tim Devlin Tim Devlin 1 year ago My God your beautiful in so many ways Reply Adam F Adam F 4 years ago wow all this science cover up and censoring sounds eerily familiar Reply Carisa noneya Carisa noneya 4 years ago Love Reply emmas816 emmas816 4 years ago What about Okinawans, longest living healthiest 85% carbs, and not just men, women too! 1 Reply 2 replies ron hanish ron hanish 4 years ago who stands to benefit from misinformation?? follow the money honey.... Reply Jenna Jenna 4 years ago Buuuuut VEGANISM! ;) 1 Reply 1 reply Richard Beaumont Richard Beaumont 3 years ago Check out Fettke and the 7th Day Adventist influence on the political position. Ideologues. Reply James Thompson James Thompson 4 years ago I hate how she speaks about "The Slaves". I wish she would address "The Slaves" as an era or past tense at least! She could have easily said, "During slavery, slaves were fed more meat than the average person in this era..etc". Hope that tone isn't in her book because I am excited to hear this information! 2 High Intensity Health Reply High Intensity Health · 2 replies tHE-ARTilect tHE-ARTilect 4 years ago Why are people so invested in what people ate as cavemen? It's 2018. WTF Reply 1 reply Karl Hungus Karl Hungus 4 years ago Nina Taubes 1 Reply very curious very curious 4 years ago (edited) I will never eat animals/ too much cruelty involved. Reply 4 replies Ellenor Bjornsdottir Ellenor Bjornsdottir 3 years ago sup with the sadmusique at the start? Reply J Willow J Willow 4 years ago This is very sad, acting like meat is necessary for our health is a disservice to this kind of channel. 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